Geek Bar and Flum Are Two Brands From Two Companies
Geek Bar is made by Geekvape. Flum sells the Float and UT Bar lines under its own name. They are not related, one is not a sub-line of the other, and nothing from one lineup clips into the other. If you searched "is Flum the same as Geek Bar", the short answer is no.
What makes this particular comparison worth writing is how close the two lineups have converged. Both brands now sell a pod-swap system where you keep a rechargeable device and click in a pre-filled pod. Both rate that pod at 60,000 puffs. Both sell 50,000-puff all-in-one disposables with a two-mode output toggle, dual-mesh coils, USB-C charging, adjustable airflow and a screen on the body. When two brands land on the same spec sheet, the decision stops being about numbers and starts being about the two or three places where they actually differ — which is what most of this page is about.
Flum specs on this page are taken from Flum's own published product listings as of September 2026. Where a Flum spec is not published we say so instead of guessing. Geek Bar prices and flavor counts are pulled from the live geek-bar.org catalog at build time, so they match the product pages.
60K Pod Systems: Geek Bar Mate 60K vs Flum Float Ryzo 60K
This is the matchup most people mean when they search "Geek Bar vs Flum" in 2026, and it is unusually close.
| Spec | Geek Bar Mate 60K | Flum Float Ryzo 60K |
|---|---|---|
| Format | Pod-swap kit, rechargeable device | Pod-swap kit, rechargeable device |
| Rated puffs per pod | 60,000 | Up to 60,000 |
| Coil | Dual mesh, in the pod | Dual mesh, in the pod |
| Charging | USB-C | USB-C fast charging |
| Screen | Yes, battery and puff readout | Yes, battery and juice level readout |
| Tank | Opaque pod | Transparent tank, e-liquid visible |
| Airflow | Adjustable | Adjustable, draw-activated |
| Nicotine | 5% (50 mg/mL) salt | 5% (50 mg) salt |
| Kit price | $26.99 | Around $25 as of Sept 2026 |
| Replacement pod | $23.99 | Around $20 as of Sept 2026 |
On rated longevity these two are level, which almost never happens across brands. The real separators are narrow. Flum's Ryzo puts the e-liquid behind a see-through tank, so you can eyeball what is left instead of trusting the screen. Geek Bar's advantage is the depth of the pod menu behind the Mate: 12 flavors to choose from when you reorder, which matters more than it sounds on a device you will be buying pods for over several months.
One thing to settle before you buy either: the pods do not cross over. A Mate 60K pod fits the Mate 60K Kit and nothing else; a Ryzo pod fits the Ryzo and nothing else. Different connectors, different housings, different batteries. Whichever kit you buy decides which pods you will be buying from then on, so treat the kit choice as the flavor-catalog choice too.
Dual Flavor: The One Thing Geek Bar Does Not Do
The clearest difference between the two lineups is not a number. The Flum UT Bar Pro 50K is built around two independent e-liquid tanks inside one device, switched with a single tap; Flum's listing describes running them separately or mixing them. Geek Bar's current US lineup has no dual-tank device. A Geek Bar runs one flavor per device, or one flavor per pod on the Mate and Clio systems.
So if "two flavors in one device" is the feature you came for, Geek Bar does not have an answer to it and the UT Bar Pro is the reason to go Flum. The trade is that you are choosing a device around a mechanism rather than around the flavor list. The closest Geek Bar equivalent to flavor-switching is the pod system: you keep the Mate 60K device and swap pods, which gets you variety across weeks rather than within a single session.
50K Disposables: Pulse X 2 vs Float Mello Pro and UT Bar Pro
| Device | Rated puffs | Notable | Price |
|---|---|---|---|
| Geek Bar Pulse X 2 50K | 50,000 | Two-mode toggle, screen, 15 flavors | $24.99 |
| Geek Bar Burj 80K | 80,000 | 0.5% nicotine, shisha-style draw | $29.99 |
| Geek Bar Pulse 15K | 15,000 | Entry device, 56 flavors | $20.99 |
| Flum Float Mello Pro 50K | Up to 50,000 | Turbo and Eco modes, screen, adjustable airflow | Around $25 as of Sept 2026 |
| Flum UT Bar Pro 50K | Up to 50,000 | Two independent tanks, 760 mAh battery | Around $25 as of Sept 2026 |
| Flum Mello 20000 | 20,000 | Entry device | Around $24 as of Sept 2026 |
At the 50K tier the two brands are matched on rated puffs and both use a two-mode toggle, so the choice comes down to the dual-tank mechanism on the UT Bar Pro against the flavor breadth and the screen behaviour on the Pulse X 2. Above that tier only Geek Bar has an entry: the Burj 80K is rated 80,000 puffs and runs a lower 0.5% nicotine with a looser shisha-style draw, which is a different experience rather than simply a bigger number — the Burj guide covers what that draw is like. Below the 50K tier the entry devices flip: the Flum Mello 20000 is rated 20,000 puffs against 15,000 on the Geek Bar Pulse 15K, at a similar price.
Which Lasts Longer, a Geek Bar or a Flum?
It depends entirely on which pair you put side by side, and on which brand's flagship you count.
- Pod systems — a tie. Mate 60K pod: 60,000 rated. Float Ryzo 60K pod: up to 60,000 rated.
- 50K disposables — a tie. Pulse X 2 50K against Float Mello Pro 50K and UT Bar Pro 50K, all rated up to 50,000.
- Top of the range — Geek Bar. The Burj 80K is rated 80,000 puffs; Flum's published lineup tops out at 50,000.
- Entry level — Flum. The Mello 20000 is rated 20,000 against 15,000 on the Pulse 15K.
Two caveats apply to every number above, on both brands. Rated counts are measured in the low-output mode, and switching to the high-output mode (Pulse on a Geek Bar, Turbo on a Flum Mello Pro) roughly halves them. And rated counts assume a shortish draw; a longer pull than the test draw burns through the rating faster on any device from any brand. Our how long do Geek Bars last guide works through what that means in days rather than puffs.
Nicotine: Both Run 5%, Only Geek Bar Goes Lower
Flum's published listing for the Float Ryzo 60K states 5% (50 mg) salt nicotine, and its current US line is sold at that strength. Geek Bar's main devices are also 5% salt nicotine, but the lineup extends in two directions Flum's does not: the Pulse Zero Nicotine is a 0% device on the Pulse 15K chassis, and the Burj 80K runs 0.5%. If you are stepping down strength, or want a device with no nicotine in it at all, that is a point for Geek Bar and the zero-nicotine guide covers what the 0% version does and does not change.
Exact mg/mL by device on the Geek Bar side is listed on the nicotine content page rather than repeated here, because it differs between the Burj and everything else.
Price: Same Band, So Cost per 1,000 Puffs Barely Moves
Against brands with lower rated counts, cost per 1,000 puffs usually flips the answer. Against Flum it mostly does not, because the ratings are level. The Geek Bar Mate 60K Kit is $26.99 with pods at $23.99; the Flum Float Ryzo 60K Kit lists at around $25 with pods at around $20 as of September 2026. Both pods are rated 60,000 puffs, so the per-puff maths lands in the same place and the sticker price is the honest comparison.
Where the per-puff view still earns its keep is the top and bottom of the range. The Burj 80K at $29.99 for 80,000 rated puffs is the cheapest per 1,000 puffs of anything on either brand's list, and the entry devices run the opposite way, with the Flum Mello 20000 rated for more puffs than the Pulse 15K at a similar price. The full Geek Bar price list by device is on the price page, and it is generated from the live catalog rather than typed in.
Which Should You Buy?
- You want the widest flavor catalog to pull pods and devices from (139 flavors)
- You want a 0% nicotine device, or a 0.5% one, not just 5%
- You want the longest-rated device on either list — the Burj 80K
- You want a shisha-style draw rather than a tight mouth-to-lung pull
- You want two flavors in one device, switchable with one tap (UT Bar Pro 50K)
- You want to see the remaining e-liquid through a transparent tank (Float Ryzo 60K)
- You want more rated puffs at the entry tier (Mello 20000 vs Pulse 15K)
For most buyers this comes down to one question: is the dual-tank mechanism worth more to you than the flavor catalog and the strength options? If yes, the UT Bar Pro has no Geek Bar equivalent. If no, the two 60K pod systems are close enough on hardware that the deeper pod menu decides it. For the other big matchups, see Geek Bar vs Elf Bar, Geek Bar vs RAZ and Geek Bar vs Foger.